Senor Mustard-
DON'T SEND IT TO ELDERS !!
Your are free the minute you declare yourself so.
You don't HAVE elders anymore!
F--K ELDERS.
a while back, i suggested that an easy, quick, quiet exit with the signing and dating of a concise and irrefutable document would spur faders and pimos to preempt the elders' interference by quitting quietly first , before a fade or a confrontation.
here is the document .
https://1drv.ms/w/s!avoitfxyvyqghq3gbmkhfyqp_jqp?e=8bttg1.
Senor Mustard-
DON'T SEND IT TO ELDERS !!
Your are free the minute you declare yourself so.
You don't HAVE elders anymore!
F--K ELDERS.
a while back, i suggested that an easy, quick, quiet exit with the signing and dating of a concise and irrefutable document would spur faders and pimos to preempt the elders' interference by quitting quietly first , before a fade or a confrontation.
here is the document .
https://1drv.ms/w/s!avoitfxyvyqghq3gbmkhfyqp_jqp?e=8bttg1.
DD - Thanks for asking.
You know that Human Rights in the USA is a sketchy, poorly supported vague and nebulous concept.
The idea that Human conscience should be protected and enshrined in right seems almost quaint.
You have a myriad of social dysfunctions that result.
The US is domicile to most of the greedy, ignorant, abusive, armed evangelical cults.
It follows that in a nation where any hillbilly with a gun, a bible and a box of snakes will be recognized as a pastor and a prophet of Jebus that perhaps humanity needs more stable direction.
I'll post the US version after the UK .
a while back, i suggested that an easy, quick, quiet exit with the signing and dating of a concise and irrefutable document would spur faders and pimos to preempt the elders' interference by quitting quietly first , before a fade or a confrontation.
here is the document .
https://1drv.ms/w/s!avoitfxyvyqghq3gbmkhfyqp_jqp?e=8bttg1.
Smiddy - I'm so glad you asked
https://1drv.ms/w/s!AvOiTfXYvyqghQ6IlKH6ZldLWCRl?e=450EJg
enjoy and share .
Remember:
NEVER,NEVER,NEVER SUBMIT A LETTER OF DISASSICIATION. It gives your rights and dignity into the hands of those you despise.
a while back, i suggested that an easy, quick, quiet exit with the signing and dating of a concise and irrefutable document would spur faders and pimos to preempt the elders' interference by quitting quietly first , before a fade or a confrontation.
here is the document .
https://1drv.ms/w/s!avoitfxyvyqghq3gbmkhfyqp_jqp?e=8bttg1.
Jeff -thanx for your input.
The elders WANT a leaver to tender a letter of 'disassociation". triggering the spontaneous ecclesiastic judicial action of DFing a dangerous apostate.
This proclamation is signed and retained well before a PIMO or fader hits the elders radar.
It is not a letter of DA, nor a letter to the elders, it is a persons' private exercise of their Human Rights.-
freedom of conscience and religion.
Because it's dated and the rights are already claimed, there is no need for elders interference- the date on the document preempt their authority over ones privacy and affairs.
a while back, i suggested that an easy, quick, quiet exit with the signing and dating of a concise and irrefutable document would spur faders and pimos to preempt the elders' interference by quitting quietly first , before a fade or a confrontation.
here is the document .
https://1drv.ms/w/s!avoitfxyvyqghq3gbmkhfyqp_jqp?e=8bttg1.
A while back, I suggested that an easy, quick, quiet exit with the signing and dating of a concise and irrefutable document would spur faders and PIMOs to preempt the elders' interference by QUITTING QUIETLY first , before a fade or a confrontation. Here is the document
https://1drv.ms/w/s!AvOiTfXYvyqghQ3gBMKhfYQp_jqP?e=8btTG1
Comments please
GfG
jehovah’s witnesses to face trial for discrimination and incitement to hate.
https://www.thebulletin.be/jehovahs-witnesses-face-trial-discrimination-and-incitement-hate?fbclid=iwar3wroaxyiadw0lomgmway-jkwzgzqxtswsid1d2lxhjgtndnfvvclqboo0.
"while jehovah’s witnesses have been the target of civil court cases before, this is the first time an entire congregation has ever been charged with a crime.".
Barbara -
Do you know if this case will rely, in any respect, on information reviewed in the recent exoneration of Regina Spiess in Switzerland?
i dont hold any doctorate degree in human psychology but if you look at the jws from a layman's perspective of whats going on inside the head of your typical jws it isn't that are hard to understand.
if you haven't noticed the jws have the propensity to reiterate word for word what the wts teaches and fills the heads of people who are strongly attached to the jws religion.. in short the wts tells people what to think and what to say about various topics, theology based or otherwise.
how that comes about is the wholehearted acceptance that what comes to the readers off the pages of the wts's literature, has come from god's chosen earthly mediators the gb men.
Finky-
just to remind... Jesus didn't write a single word of the Bible.
the amazing exoneration of info sekta in swiss court has finally reinforced the proper way to exit an abusive cult.. never write a letter of disassociation.
- no need to invoke shepherding or judicial action from elders.
make a written, dated statement of your free-will choice to have abandoned the jw religion - secure this document with a friend -a trusted friend (not the jw kind).
Dubstepped -
You must have been out, there was a call for you
Sail Away applied this approach with a 100% success rate
Read all about it in an ealier post on this thread.
the amazing exoneration of info sekta in swiss court has finally reinforced the proper way to exit an abusive cult.. never write a letter of disassociation.
- no need to invoke shepherding or judicial action from elders.
make a written, dated statement of your free-will choice to have abandoned the jw religion - secure this document with a friend -a trusted friend (not the jw kind).
Hybridous-
One of the points Ms. Spiess validated in her exoneration goes something like this -
To inflict (or even threaten) punishment upon others for not performing an act which can only be valid if done in accord with their individual consciences' - constitutes ecclesiastic coercion.
It is not a crime to hate, nor is shunning a crime. It is a crime to incite others to hate, it is a criminal act to emotionally harm others, especially youngsters, or to inflict psychological abuse - which can be longer lasting and harder to treat than physical assaults.
A real life example from JWland. A JW grandfather (to MANY grandchildren) has slowly become an alcoholic in his own home, as a way to cope with his JW wifes complaining, bitchy demanding character. She reports him, and then again later. and then again. Theres JC, he is disfellowshipped and his own beloved grandchildren are coerced into shunning an old man who hasn't harmed a single one of them.
Those young people didn't really have a true choice of conscience as they had been conditioned throughout their lives with the systemic coercions of groupthink, cult-loyalty, unity at all costs, and punishment to all who question, disagree or transgress.
No real soil to grow an actual conscience there is there?
the amazing exoneration of info sekta in swiss court has finally reinforced the proper way to exit an abusive cult.. never write a letter of disassociation.
- no need to invoke shepherding or judicial action from elders.
make a written, dated statement of your free-will choice to have abandoned the jw religion - secure this document with a friend -a trusted friend (not the jw kind).
HowTheBibleWasCreated -
No meetings and no service create a unique opportunity for leavers. Many will have already seen how utterly irrelevant religion really is, and how puny/non-existent is any direction, help or comfort from G.O.D.s.
Reddit ex/jw is alive with comments from young folks dreading the return to the dismal JW (ab)normal life.
They have nothing to lose by writing a letter claiming their legal, permanent right to freedom far superior to even their freedoms of the past 3 months.
As they anticipate only the resumption of propaganda and manipulation of their lives - they have much to gain with a quick decisive exit right now.